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Ummm .. Yeah, I Did

In my 3 years here, I've called IBM repeatedly. This wasn't just a one time call nor did I stand still. I started a user group among the state agencies. I reorganized the state email subcommittee. My colleague and I have been doing internal evangelization every chance we get. I've been carrying and waving the flag every chance I get.

But where has the extensive help from IBM been? It hasn't come to me ... I'm the guy working my ass off to make their product look great, improve their market share and they know it.

It has only in the past 6 to 9 months or so that I have had a dedicated Lotus sales resource. Honestly, the work he has put in has been great. I talk with him just about every week. He does a great job BUT ... why didn't I have him sooner? Why did he come in after the fact? Why hasn't IBM been hungrier to get the ND message out after the whole Workplace debacle? Why hasn't IBM dropped support for all Exchange related products .. last time I checked MS doesn't have any products that support Domino ... unless of course it is to move off Domino! Internal IBM support of Domino would really be fab!

Not for nothing, but as soon as IBM saw the backlash and decided Workplace was a mistake, they should have gone to every contact they have and pushed ND. They should have done national TV spots ... Hell, they could even use the Genesis song "Domino" in a spot ..

Were this an isolated incedent, I'd say OK it happens. But it is not. EVERY Business Partner has a story of an IBM client who migrated to a technically inferior product, Exchange, because IBM had that client listed as OK. If they weren't, IBM Sales were fine because they'd try to sell them a product that would work with Exchange and they'd still make their numbers.

Lastly, for now, why do we, the customers and business partners, have to be the advertising and marketing arm of the world's largest IT company when we don't even get proper support from IBM? That is the point of this thread.


Feedback response number WEBB7ANR38 created by ~Isaac Xantoopuloden on 01/08/2008

IBM\Lotus: What are you doing (~Howard Asatumi... 6.Jan.08)
. . What IBM/Lotus are doing (~Phil Lopveluma... 7.Jan.08)
. . . . True (~Howard Asatumi... 7.Jan.08)
. . . . . . re: Advertising (~Mario Cislugon... 7.Jan.08)
. . . . . . I have seen commercials on TV and a... (~Phil Lopveluma... 7.Jan.08)
. . Here is a list of recent things... (~Lisa Lopresach... 7.Jan.08)
. . From the Horse's Mouth (~Isaac Xantoopu... 7.Jan.08)
. . . . Did you ever stop to think (~Phil Lopveluma... 7.Jan.08)
. . . . . . Ummm .. Yeah, I Did (~Isaac Xantoopu... 8.Jan.08)
. . An Apology (~Isaac Xantoopu... 9.Jan.08)
. . The comparison to "Exchange" is wha... (~Hank Lophipili... 10.Jan.08)
. . . . The Comparisons to Exchange only ar... (~Helga Dwoluthe... 10.Jan.08)
. . . . . . Not to sound defensive, but the "mo... (~Lisa Lopresach... 10.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . That's a start, I hadn't seen those... (~Hank Lophipili... 10.Jan.08)
. . quote "no one ever got fired for ch... (~James Preresas... 10.Jan.08)
. . . . Hmmm.... (~Miriam Refooma... 10.Jan.08)
. . . . . . I'm not "alone" (~Mario Cislugon... 10.Jan.08)
. . . . I'd fire you (grin.) (~Hank Lophipili... 10.Jan.08)
. . After 9 years in Notes, I am consid... (~Jennifer Opkro... 11.Jan.08)
. . My 2 Cents 1/2 (~Kirk Pretoolit... 11.Jan.08)
. . Same here in France (~Zelda Umwezeng... 8.Jan.08)
. . . . If you've had "successful ND use", ... (~Lisa Lopresach... 8.Jan.08)
. . . . . . Arrogance! (~Isaac Xantoopu... 8.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . Excuse me? I was asking a question... (~Lisa Lopresach... 8.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . See this is what I am talking about... (~Howard Asatumi... 9.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . How is that what you're talking abo... (~Naomi Deskrote... 9.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . asking the right questions (~Hank Quetrepul... 9.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Identification (~Naomi Deskrote... 10.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . OK (~Hank Quetrepul... 10.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . You're changing the question... (~Naomi Deskrote... 10.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . But that is exactly the way the who... (~Yentl Quetkrot... 10.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "Political decisions" (~Naomi Deskrote... 11.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I never said it would. (~Yentl Quetkrot... 11.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . It's not just about ads (~Hank Quetrepul... 11.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . IBM / Lotus Sales Effort (~Chris Chukroet... 9.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . AWESOME ... and I do Like Alan (~Isaac Xantoopu... 9.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Sorry (~Howard Asatumi... 9.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . some further comments (~Mario Cislugon... 9.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...some further comments (~Lorraine Lopfa... 14.Jun.08)
. . . . . . . . . . re:Excuse Me (~Isaac Xantoopu... 9.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . Well, I guess we'll just have to di... (~Lisa Lopresach... 9.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Finial Statement (~Howard Asatumi... 9.Jan.08)
. . . . . . Because of management decision (~Zelda Umwezeng... 10.Jan.08)
. . . . IBM Marketing vs MS (~Helga Dwoluthe... 11.Jan.08)
. . . . . . Targeting management (~Zelda Umwezeng... 11.Jan.08)
. . support notes (~Arnold Elluter... 28.Sep.11)




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